What’s A Dot Asia Domain Worth?
May 25, 2008 · Print This Article
The sunrise dot asia domains are finished and so are some of the initial landrush auctions. This gives us some idea what domainers are valuing dot asia domains at – and perhaps what you should bid if you’re involved in an upcoming .asia auction. From the Pool DotAsia website, there is a ticker tape listing all the completed auctions. The results are as follows:
|
Domain |
Sale Price |
|
Ace.asia |
$20,501 |
|
BoutiqueHotels.asia |
$3,655 |
|
BusinessForSale.asia |
$2,800 |
|
Camel.asia |
$5,100 |
|
Car-Rental.asia |
$2,700 |
|
Cars.asia |
$3,350 |
|
Cheers.asia |
$4,100 |
|
Crawford.asia |
$3,200 |
|
Csl.asia |
$10,000 |
|
Dada.asia |
$3,250 |
|
Diver.asia |
$12,500 |
|
Domini.asia |
$2,600 |
|
Dove.asia |
$5,100 |
|
Edge.asia |
$5,400 |
|
EngelVoelkers.asia |
$3,600 |
|
Exa.asia |
$5,900 |
|
Expats.asia |
$2,400 |
|
Gackt.asia |
$2,100 |
|
HappySex.asia |
$3,601 |
|
IngramMicro.asia |
$2,900 |
|
Jump.asia |
$3,840 |
|
Kink.asia |
$7,600 |
|
LadyBoys.asia |
$5,100 |
|
Lifesavers.asia |
$5,100 |
|
LoveChat.asia |
$4,101 |
|
LuxuryHomes.asia |
$6,600 |
|
LuxuryTravel.asia |
$2,901 |
|
M-Pay.asia |
$3,600 |
|
MailOrderBride.asia |
$3,206 |
|
MarketResearch.asia |
$5,701 |
|
MediaWorld.asia |
$10,000 |
|
MPay.asia |
$4,200 |
|
Muhammad.asia |
$2,250 |
|
MyVisa.asia |
$5,600 |
|
Norton.asia |
$2,600 |
|
Parliament.asia |
$5,200 |
|
Persians.asia |
$2,600 |
|
PokerSchool.asia |
$2,250 |
|
Polar.asia |
$2,450 |
|
Reach.asia |
$5,100 |
|
Sales.asia |
$8,101 |
|
Sex.asia |
$16,000 |
|
Shadi.asia |
$3,600 |
|
Sisley.asia |
$3,350 |
|
Snowboarder.asia |
$5,300 |
|
Spotlight.asia |
$5,700 |
|
StockFootage.asia |
$4,100 |
|
TiltRotor.asia |
$2,650 |
|
TravelInsurance.asia |
$2,050 |
|
Trumpf.asia |
$2,272 |
|
Tyco.asia |
$7,600 |
|
Warcraft.asia |
$5,100 |
|
Water.asia |
$6,100 |
|
Wellness.asia |
$5,900 |
|
X-mas.asia |
$2,100 |
While the numbers seem low compared to other extensions, I think that they are reasonable in that: (1) domain prices seem softer this year; (2) there is great uncertainty about how well dot asia will do; and (3) domainers need to make a profit when they resell these.
Disclaimer: An investment in dot asia is very speculative indeed.
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Great post.
.asia is a greatly UNDERVALUED since it is a New exten.
As per your post the domain names sold for a great bargain to the benefit of the buyers.
Cars.asia – $3,350 – that is CHEAP considering how many cars are being driven in the Asean region.
I’m not sure about .asia
Whats the most popular language in Asia, defo not english so why choose english domain names.
Who knows though, .eu to me never really took off!
Cheers
Mally
I own several DotAsia names. Is there an auction house that can resell DotAsian names directly to the Pan Asian users similar to Sedo, Moniker etc?
@Del – not that I’ve heard of. If I find out about one, I’ll post here.
It would be awesome if Pool.com kept the same auction format for .Asia names after the current names are all auctioned off. At this point it is very hard to resell any .Asia names.
@Canuck – Glad to see a Canuck here :-). Agreed re Pool and auctions. It’s early days yet for reselling .asia names – people interested in them are still involved in Pool auctions which still go on for a few more weeks.
I picked up stocktrade.asia…I am considering development concerning stock exchange markets all over asia…any comments welcome…
@polosbruno – Sounds like an interesting website. I put in a few .asia orders too for domains I’d like to develop. As for reselling, it’s a bit too early to see how that wil go.
Those are pretty good prices considering they are landrush auctions and not aftermarket. You can easily multiply it by 10 for aftermarket prices.
discover.asia $112,111
sex.asia $83,334
sexshop.asia $53,607
models.asia $41,009
gifts.asia $36,000
book.asia $34,005
business.asia $29,000
promotion.asia $26,000
vodka.asia $25,000
diamond.asia $24,001
I have over 100 dot asia ( .asia) domains thus far and have gone to auction on 20 or so and top ones I have I have modeled off of the top 100 .jp websites like asiadog and duowon and made them dot asia and expect a good return either way, As well the one worders but plural like technologies.asia , repairs.asia, and industries.asia … what can I compare them to in another extension or my return on those and then some of my two worders like advertisingandmarketing.asia remains to be seen, but any idea from you or anyone on here Id love to hear feedback.
Id also like to join others to work together in doing mass email or seo type marketing to draw awareness as well as traffic to those sites…afterall its the traffic that ranks any real value of a domain/ website.
Any info or ideas, please email me
ps i have 60 .me names and still are at auction but as far as I know .asia the auctioning should be now over
I agree with “guest”.
Most of the Premium .ASIA domains were outright steals!
If you compare their prices with their .COM counterparts at http://www.estibot.com (and I don’t care what anyone says, Esitbot has done a great job fine-tuning their automated evaluation system, most of their estimates are very close and frequently actually below actual market sales at major domain sales houses), the auction prices for .ASIA domains were mostly not more than 1-2% of their .COM counterparts.
I myself was able to secure several Premium .ASIA domains at incredibly attractive prices during these auctions on Pool.com.
For example: I got Girlfriend.ASIA (great dating or social networking name) for less than $600. The Girlfriend.COM variation comes it at around $2 Mill. on Estibot.com.
Even a domain like Diamond.ASIA (which ended up selling for around $28,000 at the auction) is worth multiples of what was paid at the auction (Estibot.com puts Diamond.COM at over $6 Mill.), simply due to immediate marketability and unavailability of the .COM equivalent.
As for the comment about English language domains in Asia, there are many words used and understood in many languages worldwide (like Girlfriend, Diamond, Promotion, Apartment, Business, Sex, etc.).
Also, the business and trading language all over Asia is English, so any business-related English domain name (like Banking, Escrow, Real Estate, Financing, Accounting, etc.) will find plenty of future takers in the Asian business community (and let’s face it there is a lot of money there)
The .ASIA domains are “fresh off the press” and without an aftermarket track record yet, so all valuation systems will come in very low for a while. But eventually it will be like with all the other domain variations: Premium domains will sell at high prices because of their rarity, high demand and immediate business potential, and most others will just float around hoping for their rare moment in domain history…
The .EU domains were released about 3 years ago, and they are only now starting to gain some increasing attention. But the problem there was that many countries already had very well established country-specific extensions (for example .DE for Germany is the second largest domain group after .COM), so the adoption of .EU is slow.
Due to the seemingly unstoppable growth and appeal of the Asian markets I believe the .ASIA domains will take off faster, and in 2-3 years everybody will shake their heads in disbelief that Diamond.ASIA went for $28,000 in 2008…
I believe this extention will take off and become highly sought after in the very near future. I have about 300 names and only bought as many as I could afford to renew for three years at least. Although, I do hope that I can sell one or two off to pay for the renewal fees on the others in the next 12 – 18 months.
What would be really wonderful for this extention is if it was translated. In other words the name chosen if typed in any ansian language with dot asia would point to the same website. This would explode the value of this extention. Not sure if it is possible to do, but I hope it is something that could be considered. It would also be good if they reduce the price on the renewals to reduce the expiries.
All in all though I am happy I jumped in and I am very happy with the names that I got. They all have good end use.
The aftermarket for .ASIA is starting to develop.
I recently spoke with a domain owner who sold http://www.IQ-Test.asia for $10,000. This is a hyphenated domain name and probably would not be worth a whole lot more in the .com version.
Sales like this will certainly increase the overall valuation profile of .ASIA domains.
Let’s hope this trend continues…
Hi Mar,
Yes, the aftermarket for .asia has developed a fair bit in recent months. The price for IQ-Test.asia seems high, and generally, I have been surprised how well .asia is doing so far. I’m not sure how long this will last.
I soent a lot of money an .asia domains for example.
airline.asia
airlines.asia
homes.asia
diamond.asia
shipping.asia
apartment.asia
and a few more, I am not sure what’s the real value as you can imagine the cost for those, could someone tell me what would they be worth in like a year or 2?
Thanks
Those look like really good domains Ron! It’s difficult to predict a year or two into the future – especially in these unprecedented economic times. Given the quality of those domains, I think that they’ll always have a decent value.
hi
I have purchased iqtest.asia some weeks ago and now owned it. I would be very interested to see who paid USD10.000 for iq-test.asia.
Can someone help me?
Best and Thanks
@Lizard – you could just check the whois information.
It’s interesting that iq-test.asia was actually registered a while before iqtest.asia. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a hyphenated term registered before the unhyphenated term.
@admin and @all
thats the reason why i am a bit surprised. i went through the dotasia.pool.com auction. so i guess the one purchasing the hyphened domain came after and did not go through the auction. still, i am wondering that someone paid USD10.000
i would not mind selling my domain either.
hi
I have tried to track the sale of http://www.iq-test.asia. but unfortunate I could not find much – no current owner, no sales history.
Can someone provide me with a bit more details with regard to the sales of iq-test.asia? Maybe Mar can you help me?
Any support will be appreciated.
Best
Lizard
Hi Lizard – I’ve emailed Mar about this on your behalf.
Hi “Lizard” and “Admin”,
I have read your posts (don’t recall receiving an e-mail from “Admin though).
I don’t want to post the e-mail of the (previous) owner of iq-test.asia in this public forum, but if “Admin” can shoot me an e-mail with “Lizard’s” e-mail, I will forward it to “Lizard”.
Mar
Thanks Mar! I just emailed you Lizard’s email address.
@ron
The prices (even for premium .ASIA domains) have collapsed badly since the Landrush auctions ended.
Recently Pool.com re-auctioned some domains that where abandoned by the winning bidder(s). They did not pay, possibly because they realized they bid too much…
Some examples:
BUY.ASIA sold at the initial auction for $73.000, now at the re-auction it sold for just $11.888 (that’s less than 20% of the original value)
STEEL.ASIA initially sold for $10.700, at the re-auction it was down to $3.115 (= less than 30% of initial value)
BUDDHISM.ASIA sold initially for $3.900, at the re-auction it went for only $260 (= less than 10% !! of the initial value)
Domain selling sites (like Sedo) are currently awash in .ASIA domains for sale, which only depresses the market values further.
Given the current distressed worldwide economic situation, most domain owners expecting to profit from the initial .ASIA auctions will most likely sit on their domains for a very long time, and many will probably have to sell below what they paid for…
I realize that this changes the views I expressed in my post back in August, but there have been very dramatic economic changes since then, which unfortunately are also shaping and affecting the domain markets.
Things are not pretty right now… 🙁
Mar
@Mar – thanks for the update! I hadn’t known about the re-auctions.
> Things are not pretty right now…
Yes, prices are down across the board, and it makes sense that more speculative investments, like .asia, got harder hit.
hi Mar, hi Admin
thanks a lot. i would very much appreciate to receive a private e-mail with regard to the sale of iq-test.asia.
looking forward to reading it and staying in touch.
until then, i appreciate the support of all of you.
best
lizard
I wonder how much do you think http://www.English.Asia is worth in this bad enconmy.
David,
It all depends on who you can find as a buyer.
If you sell to a domain trader they may not offer you very much.
If you can find someone who can use it to promote their business, they may be willing to pay you more.
But overall .ASIA prices are pretty low right now. A big reason is that so many people initially bought domains with the intent to immediately sell them again (Sedo.com is awash with .ASIA domains for sale).
Buy.ASIA recently sold at a re-auction for only $11,000 (and most people would probably consider that an extremely attractive domain).
If you sell right now I would estimate $2-5K if you sell to a domain trader, $5-10K for a serious buyer, and possibly more if someone really wants it (and has some money on the sides).
I think value will come for sure take time some good buyer paying alot for them right now!
Oliver.
@Oliver
Can you give an example for “some good buyer paying a lot for them right now!” ?
Here is another example of the recent drop in .ASIA values:
Gold.ASIA sold at the initial auction for $46,602.
The winning bidder apparently did not pay, so the domain was re-auctioned about 1 week ago.
This time around the domain went for only $9,500 (that is about 20% of the initial value…)
🙁
Ouch, that hurts! Thanks for the update Mar. I think all domains have gone down in value since then, but this is obviously a much larger decrease!
I have several .asia domains
I would like to sell them in about $30-$60 each.
were can I do it? (they are listed in sedo and afternic)
any ideas?
thanks
At that price range, your best bet is probably the domain forums.
I’ve got the following .asia domains. Would you think they’re worth hanging onto with the current depressed prices? – thx! TB
airportdirectory.asia
bona-fide.asia
bonafide.asia
brainchild.asia
consummate.asia
contingency.asia
cremedelacreme.asia
discountflightsto.asia
discountfuel.asia
mentorship.asia
officesolutions.asia
pilotresources.asia
@ Milly
Can you list some of the names you want to sell?
Or do you have a site with their listing?
Mar
@ TB
Some of your domains would be nice if they were .COM domains.
Unfortunately the .ASIA market is in its infancy and it will not be easy to find buyers for them. Also most of them are quite long and don’t describe content that can be easily commercialized.
In my humble opinion Officesolutions.asia can probably most easily be commercially applied. I also like Brainchild.asia, but don’t see immediately how that could be commercially developed.
Airportdirectory.asia may also be somewhat useful, but it would be a niche with probably mostly non-profit content (most people would probably go to Airport.asia).
Your domains are second- and third-tier, and unfortunately we are not at the point yet where people are willing to pay money for those… (unlike the .COM domains).
Mar
Thanks Mar!
.asia will take time in 1 to 2 years they will be avg. sales to $5,000 thats 50% of .com it catch by then for sure .asia will come and when we out of crisis will be alot better
@ Oliver
I enjoy your enthusiasm and optimism, it is definitely refreshing !
I am not sure we can reach 50% of .com (after all, even .net domains generally run only at about 20-30% of .com max), but even at 10-20% I would be tickled…
I also have another update on a recent re-auction of a premium .asia domain at pool.com:
Girl.asia went for $28.556 at the initial auction last summer.
The winning bidder apparently defaulted, and the domain was put back up for re-auctioning.
This time around the winning bid for Girl.asia was $11,509 (that is a little more than 30% of the original winning bid – pretty much in line of what I have seen with most re-auctions).
C’est la vie…
What an interesting discussion on the dot asia, the future value of these dot asia’s are very speculative indeed.
By the way, if you’d register any more dot asia, I would suggest doing a quick whois search first and see if its other Gltds are all taken.
Here’s a list of my dot asia’s, what do you think about their current value and future value guys:
italiancharm.asia
italianrestaurants.asia
stopglobalwarming.asia
stopclimatechange.asia
pleasehelp.asia
thefinest.asia
guitarists.asia
mandarins.asia
quickies.asia
livestreaming.asia
businessbusiness.asia
businessentrepreneur.asia
homebased.asia
billionnaire.asia
bethany.asia
airexpress.asia
elifestyle.asia
uniting.asia
Cheers =)
yes .asia i sold 18 and bought aswell they rising with prices.
They will get value 35% of .com at least in 2 years time.
for sure let companies start building sites and users doing online business in 73 countries.
its going to take time to do that prices only rise form here for sure.
I own affiliate.asia i have gotten offer for that name $17,500 3 offers now rejected
Guys do you think I should renew all of my .asia domains?
Or just let them lapse because mine are not much of any value at all?
Oliver, that $17,500 is a lot of money 😉 very tempting to sell it if I were you hehehe
affiliate.com sold for $575,000
i have offer affiliate.asia $17,500 in live auction already
.asia will become more popular and growth online is only starting in asia im sure i get more in 2 years for SURE.
they start price from only can grow.
MSN: ceo@seek99.com
Guys,
I have the following domains, I submitted some of them before but I am amazed that I did not get any offers yet what do you think,
homes.asia
builders.asia
airline.asia
airlines.asia
contractors.asia
move.asia
shipping.asia
diamond.asia
apartment.asia
refinance.asia
relocation.asia
lenders.asia
blogs.asia
traders.asia
Ron whats your asking prices for these domains?
have for sale findmejob.asia is someone intrested in buying?
feel free to make an offer 🙂 contacts on my site ostghost.com
@ Ron
The simple reason you are not getting offers on your domains is that nobody is really interested in .Asia domains.
I bet that you even hardly get any traffic to your domains.
They were skilfully hyped by the .Asia Registry during the Landrush, and bought almost exclusively by speculators (many of them are only now beginning to realize that they lost their shirts and paid far too high prices during the auctions…).
The initial auction prices were unsustainable, and subsequent sales were a fraction of the initial sales.
All domain market places are saturated with .Asia domains that these initial speculators are desperately trying to unload.
Try to submit any of your domains to a reputable domain valuation service (like Sedo.com) and you will get a reality check of the TRUE market values of .Asia domains. Even for supposed top quality names you will not get more than a mid-$x,xxx valuation.
The other reason why .Asia domains will not play an important role is that next year ICANN will roll out the option to register domains in native Asian languages. Why would anyone, for example, in China want a .Asia domain when he can get a domain in his own language? The native language option will open up the Asian markets to their own populations without the need to read or write in English (which only the very educated classes do anyway).
.Asia was a cute idea, but the speculators really got bitten by this one…
Buy.Asia an Girl.Asia recently went for barely above $10,000, and those would be considered probably some of the most desirable .Asia domains possible.
There are still some domainers out there who think they won the Lottery…, but at current values .Asia domains will have to increase by 300-500% to even get close to where they were at the Landrush auctions. Even the .com domains took 5-10 years during their boom-time to make such gains, so for .Asia this is even less likely…
I hate to burst bubbles, but .Asia was a HUGE ONE… sorry, guys…
@ Oliver
I don’t really believe your claim of the “live auction” offer of $17,500 for affiliate.asia.
The domain is listed at Sedo.com, it had only 6 (!!) visitors in the past 31 days, and only 1 offer has been submitted on this domain.
If this domain was put in a “live auction” after receiving an initial bid, then it would have been awarded to the first bidder if there is no higher bidder – that’s how Sedo.com works.
So your story really does not make much sense, other that trying to self-inflate your supposed domain value…
yes $17,000 last year was on moniker live auction.
@ Oliver
I searched the Moniker Auctions archives, there is no record of Affiliate.asia.
In all of 2008 there were even less than 30 domains that sold above $17,000 (most of them .com domains).
The only .Asia domains that ever sold in 2008 and 2009 in Moniker Auctions were MakeOut.Asia for $500 and 21C.Asia for $100.
FYI: the estimated values on Estibot.com for MakeOut.COM and 21C.COM are $97,000 and $4,700 respectively.
This shows that the TRUE MARKET VALUE (i.e. in a PUBLIC auction) for .Asia domains is between 0.25-0.5% of .COM values.
Hardly a convincing argument for the supposed “value” of .Asia domains (as I said earlier, most of the earlier .Asia speculators have lost their shirts in the Landrush auctions and are still having a hard time coming to terms with REALITY…)
Also keep in mind that .Asia prices dropped an additional 60-70% since last summer…
yes it was traffic last year on the live did not sell reserve was higher 100% true ask or check.
.asia will will come back it will have time right i have sold servera .asia 2% of .com now i have 3 years tiem wil be at 10% of .com many domainers are picking up .asia domains now as they are cheap.
@ Oliver
Well, it seems like you are slowly returning to REALITY…
Just a month ago you were trumpeting “…35% of .COM in 2 years”, now you are down to “10% of .COM in 3 years”…, that’s a drop of about 70-80% in just over a month… about as fast as the .Asia domains have dropped since the Landrush auctions (hehe!)
As I said earlier: .Asia domains will get sidelined by the coming rush in 2010 of domains in native Asian languages which will really draw local traffic in those countries.
.Asia may find a few niches in the Travel and Business industries, other than that this TDL will be pretty much dead… (as evidenced by a COMPLETE lack of buyer interest in this TDL, just ask “Ron” above who can not even find anyone interested in his “top premium domains”).
I remember some friends of mine bragging about becoming the next internet millionaires with .Asia domains. They were just suckers of a very skillful marketing and auctioning campaign by the .Asia Registry and Pool.com which completely overinflated the domain values, and are sitting on their domains without a buyer in sight… (wishing they still had the money they spent on these auctions).
Even if, as you said, you assume a current value of 2% of .COM (this is NOT supported by the sales data!), it is completely unrealistic that this will go to 10% in 2 years. That would be a 500% increase in 24 months (!!) – this did not even happen to the .COM domains during the .COM-bubble (and during far better economic times!).
I am not trying to trash your .Asia domains, but you guys need to get your heads out of the sand and look at economic realities, not make delusional statements that are completely based on fantasy and wishful thinking…
yes i have had offer and sold 4 .asia this and made profit on all of to end users im keeping my best .asia for the furture on affiliate.asia 17K i not sell it wait fr more
i have time
right it good to buy and hold.
Hello to all
although it seems as though it is the same few people discussing this thread I figure i will have input.
First remember all this is opinion me you others etc
I have about 100 .asia names well at least and pretty heavy .me names (dot me) regardless if you simply take the .asia and if thought that it would rival the .com, you may be right! oh no, you may be wrong too! That is what an investment is.
What is most amusing is that hardly any great investment comes without its ups and downs otherwise what would be …oh yeah guaranteed!
Guaranteed investment great concept without the concept of speculation. If you believe real estate is a good investment say yes. Is it now? yes and no …if you own a home and sell now whats the value? If you are buying a home yeah its a great investment. If you bought .asia or any name thinking to sell in a year or two as i read then that was probably not wise, like buying realestate and selling a year later in this economy to boot is not fair to compare.
ask yourself this:
Would I have bought a one word name or LLL.com when it first came out?
and a year later if i sold it would i be rich?
what if i buy now then hold it for 15 years well guys what do you think apartments.com would be worth today for sale what about retire.com or diamonds.com gold.com homes.com airlines.com the list goes on and on.
So you buy at $100 or whatever and invest to keep $20 or whatever every year sell in 2 years for the same value or maybe a bit more or sell in 15 years to retire when you get $10k $20k $30k $100k etc
perhaps I have a different outlook when I bought then to flip so quick but I’m quite sure I’m just fine (because I forget about them and stock em away) wow …what an investment then huh?
ps no one could give a good quote as to the value in a year or two or 10 its simply worth what one is willing to pay but
very needless to say that one word generic …gold …airlines …ass….income….apartment….is worth a lot more as well the
same with 3 characters aii…rff.ddd.jjj…kkk…ltg…lfl…lmb…mlb…mls… whatever
two words are fine if has great meaning this is what you should invest in.
one more ps I wouldn’t really discuss negatives of value on an open forum on the web for the world to see …your shooting yourselves in the foot.
Im sure ill have some raw comments from this but take it for what its worth.
Lance Zeidman
emaillance01, I agree with you, I think that in probably less than 5 years when the market wakes up it will go up as well.
In terms of a place to sell .Asia domains, one site I have seen them advertised on is http://www.Admart.Asia.
Godaddy I think does not yet offer .Asia auction service, but I think Sedo might do.
PS – I own the domain name http://www.mahjong.asia.
I can very close to selling it to the organizers of the world Mahjong championships in Macau last year. I believe this domain has huge potential, especially for an on-line mahjong website. I am seeking USD 50K for it.
how much admart.asia cost?
hi there – I have the following .asia domains – I did this for a bit of speculation.
I would be interedted to see if anyone thinks they are worthwhile holding on to.
competitions.asia
freetrial.asia
leaseit.asia
learnit.asia
bookit.asia
soldit.asia
gofish.asia
pinkpages.asia
hornyasians.asia
Im buying right now .asia domains it can take 2 years or so for it to pick up ……
( see the .eu took 3 years to cshow 40K+ sales serveral now)
Wow..several offers at sedo.com
Vip.asia = 300k Euro
Tours.asia = 150k pounds
spices.asia = 10k pounds
text.asia = 10k pounds
financing.asia = 10k pounds
Sedo must have appraised the domains, or else the seller wont be able to list it more than 10k pounds..
I think the value of .asia domains are increasing now..better buy now !
I have added 3 more domains to my portfolio below:
————————————————————
wireless.asia
rates.asia
vacation.asia
————————————————————
homes.asia
builders.asia
airline.asia
airlines.asia
contractors.asia
move.asia
shipping.asia
diamond.asia
apartment.asia
refinance.asia
relocation.asia
lenders.asia
blogs.asia
traders.asia
yes also my .asia domain apkring traffic increased 300% on 6 months only!
Well, I have not visited this thread in a while, but it is always funny and entertaining to see how “Oliver”, “Ron” and “Arie” are still blowing their own horns…!
Their information is pretty much useless, as they are simply self-promoting.
@ Arie:
Why don’t you tell everyone that YOU (Elmirzaev Furkat from Karshi in Uzbekistan – this is public information at Whois.asia) are the owner of ALL the domains listed in your post of January 18, 2010, and that YOU are (desperately) trying to sell them on Sedo? Anyone can list any domain for any price on Sedo. A Sedo Appraisal is ONLY required if you want to place a Featured Listing.
None of YOUR domains were appraised by Sedo.
@ Ron:
Ron purchased Vacation.asia during a re-auctioning at Pool.com for exactly $10,000 (It previously went for $20,000, but that winning bidder got cold feet and was smart enough to realize he paid too much). There were >300 Bidders eligible to participate in this second auction. Pretty much everyone dropped out around $5,500 (this tells me what professional domainers are considering a reasonable price for this domain), and it was only 1 other bidder who pushed Ron up to his maximum bid of $10,000.
There were several other domains that were re-auctioned on Pool.com, and some of the price collapses were astronomical: there were several domains that had initially auctioned in the $3-4k range, and went for $10 (!!) during the re-auctioning (I was able to pick up 2 of these, as well as another one for $310 which had earlier auctioned for $5k).
Several of Ron’s domains would be great IF(!) they were .com. But unfortunately they are only .asia, and .asia is dead in the water.
None of his domains will fetch more that $5-10k on the open market or in any auction, and he will not get any appraisal from any reputable domain appraisers for more than that… (and of course this is a problem because he paid in the $30-40k range for some of his domains).
@ Oliver
Oliver continues to blow smoke. Earlier last year he said that he had an offer for “$17,500” for Affiliate.asia in a Moniker Auction. The only problem is that Affiliate.asia was NEVER listed in ANY Moniker Auction (that data can be researched on Moniker.com).
Now he makes a claim that his parking traffic has increased by “300%”. Don’t believe a word this guy says.
Earlier last year (in May 2009 to be precise) the monthly traffic to his Affiliate.asia listing on Sedo was 6/month. The most recent data shows traffic of 2/month (the third one was from me when I checked it today).
He probably got confused with his numbers, and meant to say that the traffic is 30% of what it used to be…
All these 3 guys are self-promoting their domains because they can not find any buyers.
The simple truth is that .asia has taken a terrible beating, and not a single .asia domain has sold for more than 1-2% of .com value on the aftermarket.
So guys: keep blowing your own horns, but don’t think the rest of us is blind or stupid.
Chris you are stupiud you dont what you are talking about my .asia domains in pakring 12 to now have 300% increase traffic I have proof
I guess its a shame that your sold your .asia too CHEAP:)
Cruise.asia i have an end user right a Travel Agent rejcted xx,xxx offer I want more or i will Delevop the site my self.
I know there quite a few aftermarket sales x,xxx to xx,xxx range
Oliver.
@ Oliver
It is sad that you are resorting to name-calling now (but I guess that’s what some people do when they run out of arguments…)
I really can see nothing new in your post of February 1, 2010. Just more of the same thing…
Also, you should read my post a little more carefully:
I did not SELL any .Asia domains. I BOUGHT a few abandoned . Premium .Asia domains during a second round of auctions, and at a fraction of what they sold for during the initial auctions.
.asia has had so much speculation. Rick Latona thinks they are worthless. I’m not convinced by that. I have savour.asia and savor.asia. Willing to sell both for less than $10k.
Chris.
Why are you so frustrated with your life?, it’s an investment and it’s a risk people are willing to take, take a vacation and come back fresh.
@ ron
Let’s stick to the topic of this thread “What’s A Dot Asia Domain Worth?”, instead of going off on some silly psycho-babble…
Do you have any verifiable info on recent sales of .Asia domains?
Do you have any reliable independent assessment(s) of domain value(s) (i.e. through Sedo or Moniker)?
Why don’t you submit one of your domains to Sedo or Moniker for an independent assessment and share it with us so we can all get an idea “What a Dot Asia Domain is worth”?
chris.
if you look at my thread and read it you will see that i don’t have any opinion about the .asia and I am not sure about the future my self, I just took a risk, if it will work in the future it’s great and if it won’t than I will probably develop some of the domains.
you need to understand that there is no more .com, there is a new generation in asia with great mind and great ideas, so if they want to reach audience around the world they won’t be able to use local asian domains and we hope that the .asia will be a good solution.
Hi,
I would be interested in finding out readers opinion of the value of http://www.hkjc.asia.
Gambling in asia is enormous, especially in Hong Kong. The Hong Kong Jockey Club, http://www.hkjc.com, offers the only legal betting forum for horse racing, football etc in Hong Kong. It has a turnover in the 100’s of millions (HKD).
I was considering holding this for 10 years+ but may consider selling it.
Any specific feedback would be greatly appreciated.
Graeme,
A couple of thoughts:
hkjc.com appears to already be an established business.
They likely have proprietary or trademark rights to their domain.
I suspect it will be near to impossible to use hkjc.asia to compete with hkjc.com in the same industry and market (or even find a buyer willing to take that risk).
Other than that hkjc.asia is basically a 4-letter domain (to my knowledge 4-letter domains of the .ASIA tdl do not command premium prices, even with .COM it is currently difficult to get more than $100-200).
Have you thought about maybe offering hkjc.asia to the owners of hkjc.com? They might be interested in consolidating their domain presence…
Chris,
thanks for giving your honest opinion on .asia.
I paid a few thousand dollars for two premium domains and hope the value goes up. Do you think the new regulation on .CN domains will increase the value of .asia?
Also, does anyone know a basic formula of what a .asia or in general a domain is worth?
Shouldnt we rank the value of the .asia based on:
1.the length of the domain
2.how it sounds (rhymes with Asia)
3.whether the domain is related to the asian region or not
4.SEO value (for example if Keyword.COM is parked, the .asia version may have more value)
if you can think of more please add to the list.
Generally speaking, I think most of us paid more than what we should but hope the future proves otherwise.
Yashar,
1. Which “new regulation on .CN domains” are you referring to?
2. Al the elements of domain valuation you listed are useful. However, probably the most important key element of domain valuation is “comparable sales” (very similar to real estate).
There is a long track record of .COM aftermarket sales, so it is much easier to determine a “fair value” for .COM domains.
The problem with .ASIA is that as of today there appear to be virtually no aftermarket sales.
I have tried to make that point in previous posts.
“Oliver” has made several claims in earlier posts that he knows of aftermarket sales. The problem is that this guy can not produce any verifiable data, so I consider his claims not credible.
Only if we can collect some hard data on actual .ASIA aftermarket sales will we be able to get a better feel for .ASIA values.
So if anyone has any information on actual .ASIA aftermarket sales (must include the domain, the price, and where it was sold), that information would be greatly appreciated !!!
I have just sold insure.asia for 20 times more than its original price.
Insure.asia sold at $25,000